Protected: Escher Logos, BarbIer SZENEN UND VERBUNDENE MARKEN
Protected: Escher Logos, Barber Scenes and Connected Trademarks
D. Giovannacci, L&B. Ghelfi 1897 Prix Courant (KATALOG/CATALOGUE)
DE: Pierres de Touche = Probiersteine
Diese Steintypen wurden als Probiersteine für Edelmetalle verkauft. Oft verwendete man hierfür Kiseselgesteine (z.B. Lydit, auch Radilarit oder Kieselschiefer genannt), ein schwarzes mit weissen Adern durchsetztes hartes Gestein. Beim Abziehen von Gold oder Silber verblieb ein Abrieb auf dem Stein und man konnte sehr gut den Gehalt des Edelmetalles bestimmen. Es kamen aber auch andere harte Steine zum Einsatz welche von Säuren nicht angegriffen wurden.
EN: Pierres de Touche = Testing Stones
These types of stones have been sold as “Testing Stones” for precious metals like gold or silver. Often siliceous rocks were used (f.ex. Lydite, called also radilarite), a black hard stone with white streaks. When rubbing gold or silver over the stone a trace will stay on the stone. With the trace its possible to estimate the content of the precious metal. Also other hard types of stones have been used, stones which do not show any reaction to acid.
DE: Pierres Hindostan ou Canada = Hindostan + Kanadischer Ölstein beide Steintypen wurden wohl “gleichzeitig” verkauft. Während in alten Katalogen der Kanadische Ölstein immer wieder auch als “ERSATZ” für den Hindostan Stein angepriesen wird und umgekehrt auch.
EN: Pierres Hindostan ou Canada = Hindostan + Canadian Oilstone both types have been sold “at the same time”. In older catalogues we often find Hindostan Stones as a substitute for Canadian Oilstones and vice versa.
DE: Pierre de Saxe = Sächsischer Ölstein, vermutlich wurden die Steine zu diesem Zeitpunkt von den bekannten Brüchen in Thüringen bezogen. Sächsische Ölsteine wurden auch unter dem deutschen Pseudonym als “Forellen” verkauft. Die Steine sind ähnlich hart und fein wie Arkansas Steine (Hart Arkansas / Translucent Arkansas)
DE: Italiennes blanches et jaunes = Italienische weisse und gelbe Steine
Für mich ist es das Erste mal das ich in den alten Katalogen Rasiermesser Abziehsteine aus Italien sehe. Nein wir reden nicht von Sensenwetzsteinen wie z.B. Mailänder Steine sondern hier sind explizit Abziehsteine für Rasiermesser gemeint. Möglicherweise eine Spur zu den oft in Frankreich aufgefundenen Pierre du Sud Ouest (PDSO). Diese Steine sind Thüringer Abziehsteinen sehr ähnlich und haben ein Senf ähnliches dunkles gelb.
EN: Italiennes blanches et jaunes = Italian white and yellow stones
For me it is the first time i’ve seen Italian Razor hones in one of the olf catalogues. We are not talking about scythe stones like f.ex. Mailand Stones. Those are explicetely called Razor Hones. Possibly this might be a trace to those often found stones in france called Pierre Du Sud Ouest (PDSO). Those stones compare well to thuringian water hones, but they show a mustard like dark yellow.
Schleifmittel Aktiengesellschaft (SAG) 1930 (PREISLISTE/PRICELIST)
Seite 1 –
Seite 2 – Carbosaxum Steine
Carbosaxum Banksteine im Pappkarton
Carbosaxum Kombinationsbanksteine
Carbosaxum Hohlmeißelsteine
Carbosaxum Schuhmachersteine
Carbosaxum Feilen, unbearbeitet
Seite 3 – India Ölsteine
“Der Indiastein gilt in der ganzen Welt als der langlebigste Ölstein. Außer dem Vorzug, fast unverwüstlich zu sein, fällt ein Indiastein sofort durch sein scharfes gleichmäßiges Korn auf. “India frisst geradezu den Stahl” schreiben die Kunden”
Katalog Schleifmittel Aktiengesellschaft (SAG) 1930
India Ölsteine Erläuterungen
India Banksteine in Pappkartons
India Kombinationssteine in Pappkartons
India Hohlmeißel Steine
India Dreikant Feilen
India Vierkant Feilen
India Rund Feilen
Seite 4 – Arkansas Ölsteine
Foto Sägen der Arkansas Steine
DE: Trennen der Arkansas Brocken mit einer Trennscheibe
EN: Cutting of Arkansas Blocks with a cutting disc
Foto Bearbeiten der fertigen Steine
DE: Bearbeiten der fertigen Steine am Schleiftisch
EN: preparing the finished Stones at the grinding table
Hart Arkansas Banksteine
Hart Arkansas Dünnschnitt
Reportage über Thüringer Wasserabziehsteine Teil 1
IMPORTANT: There will be an english release of the Documentry!!
Guten Morgen, ich freue mich euch heute ein neues Razorlovestones Projekt vorstellen zu können!
Ich habe mich das letzte halbe Jahr recht ausführlich mit Firmen beschäftigt die Thüringer Wasserabziehsteine und andere Steine in Verkehr gebracht haben. Nach einiger Suche ist mir aufgefallen das es bisher eigentlich kein umfassendes Video zu den Thüringer Steinen gibt, deshalb habe ich mein Verständnis darüber wie die Steine funktionieren und welche Eigenschaften Sie mitbringen in ein Video gepackt.
Der Weg dahin war “steinig” und “schwer” 😉 neben dem rein zeitlichen Aufwand hatte ich zwischendrin technische Probleme mit dem Imovie App was mein Projekt immer wieder zum abstürzen gebracht hat. Mittlerweile habe ich einen Weg gefunden und habe final zwei Teile daraus gemacht.
Heute findet ihr den ersten Teil vor euch! Ein zweiter folgt dann später noch. Der erste Teil hat folgende Inhalte:
1. Einleitung und warum Thüringer
2. Körnungsangaben / Grit Size
3. optischer Facettenvergleich
4. Thüringer Brocken
5. Farben und Preise
6. künstliche Thüringer
7. Fassbinder & Co Solingen
8. andere Schiefer Abziehsteine
9. mehrschichtige Steine
10. Abnutzungserscheinungen
11. Aussergewöhnliche Thüringer
12. Pierre Du Sud Ouest
13. Schwedensteine
14. Farbtöne
15. Identifikation
Ich wünsche euch viel Spass beim schauen des Videos. Solltet ihr Fragen oder auch andere Meinungen und Ansichten zu den Steinen haben die ihr gerne teilen möchtet kommentiert gerne in dem Kommentarbereich des Videos oder auch hier unterhalb des Posts.
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RAZOR LOVE STONES
created: 14.03.2017 / edited: 14.03.2017
Reportage – 001 Thüringer Wasserabziehsteine
Chapter:”Zanarelli, Galtié”
Who were the people behind F.G.B.C…?
(written by Jethro aka Fikira, historyrazors.wordpress.com)
“F.G.B.C.” produced & sold many sharpening stones, for example:
“pierre La Lune”, “Special Stone only for Good Razors”,
“New Master Stone”, … This article (split up into different chapters)
reveals the history behind the company
Chapters:
- “F.G.B.C., Introduction”
- “Ghelfi family”
- “Birolleau family”
- “Demosthènes, Malaspinas”
- “Bardotti, Giovannacci”
- “L. Belle”
- “Zanarelli, Galtié”
- “Short detailed chronology” & “In conclusion”
Chapter: “Zanarelli, Galtié“
1911/ 16 April
“Valentin Ghelfi”, son of “Constantino Ghelfi” bought a grindstone
factory, situated at “80, r. St-Maur., Paris”, thereby leaving
“7, r.Charlot” and creating two company’s that sold
grind- and sharpening stones
(gallica.bnf.fr Link,
Archives commerciales de la France 1874-1955 Link)
| Sellers | Purchasers | Funds sold |
| Galtié | Ghelfi | Grindstones, 80, St.Maur. |
On a receipt of 1931 we see that “Galtié” worked
with a “Vve. Zanarelli” at “80, Rue St. Maur” &
“74, Avenue de la Republique“, before
it was sold to “Valentin Ghelfi“
“Vve. Valentin Ghelfi” Successeur Anciennes Maisons
“Vve. Zanarelli & J. Galtié”, et “Valentin Ghelfi”
“Vve. Zanarelli & J. Galtié”, et “Valentin Ghelfi”
So, who was Zanarelli and Galtié?
Sadly, at the moment, I can’t find anything more of “Galtié“,
I think though there are some things to be told about “Zanarelli“
Most probably, the late husband of “Vve Zanarelli” was
“Zanarelli François“
1885
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Zanarelli (François), pierres à aiguiser, Saint-Maur, 95
& rue Oberkampf 52”
& rue Oberkampf 52”
“Zanarelli (François), sharpening stones, Saint-Maur, 95
& rue Oberkampf 52”
& rue Oberkampf 52”
1886
Zanarelli, “rue Oberkampf, 52” disappeared
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Zanarelli (François), pierres & meules à aiguiser,
Saint-Maur, 95”
Saint-Maur, 95”
“Zanarelli (François), sharpening stones & grindstones,
Saint-Maur, 95”
Saint-Maur, 95”
Although there is a mentioning of “Zanarelli (François)”,
“Saint-Maur, 93”,
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Zanarelli (François), “Saint-Maur, 93”
I believe it to be a typo, because the following enumeration of
people living on each address doesn’t show “Zanarelli (François)”
at “Saint-Maur, 93”, only at “Saint-Maur, 95”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Zanarelli (François), pierres & meules à aiguiser,
Saint-Maur, 95”
Saint-Maur, 95”
“Zanarelli (François), sharpening stones & grindstones,
Saint-Maur, 95”
Saint-Maur, 95”
1890, 7 Jan.
“Zanarelli (François)” needed to move out…
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Expropriation pour cause d’utilite publique
ouverture de l’avenue république, section comprise entre
la rue oberkampf et la rue st-Maur.
·
Tableau de offers aux propriétaires et aux locataires à bail:
Rue Oberkampf, 74; rue Saint Maur 95-97 &
avenue Parmentier, 80
·
Zanarelli (François), marchand des meules”
ouverture de l’avenue république, section comprise entre
la rue oberkampf et la rue st-Maur.
·
Tableau de offers aux propriétaires et aux locataires à bail:
Rue Oberkampf, 74; rue Saint Maur 95-97 &
avenue Parmentier, 80
·
Zanarelli (François), marchand des meules”
“Expropriation for public utility
Opening of the Republic Avenue section between
oberkampf Street and St-Maur street.
·
Table offers to owners and leaseholders:
Rue Oberkampf, 74; rue Saint Maur 95-97 &
avenue Parmentier, 80
·
Zanarelli (François), merchant grindstones”
Opening of the Republic Avenue section between
oberkampf Street and St-Maur street.
·
Table offers to owners and leaseholders:
Rue Oberkampf, 74; rue Saint Maur 95-97 &
avenue Parmentier, 80
·
Zanarelli (François), merchant grindstones”
1893
“Zanarelli (François)” moved (most probably in 1890)
to “76, rue St-Maur”
(which is very close to “80, rue St-Maur“!
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Zanarelli (François), meules à aiguiser, Saint-Maur, 76”
“Zanarelli (François), grindstones, Saint-Maur, 76”
(on these documents, no businesses were held at
“80, rue St-Maur” → see Link2)
1896
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Zanarelli (François), pierres à aiguiser, Saint-Maur, 76”
“Zanarelli (François), sharpening stones, Saint-Maur, 76”
1897
Zanarelli (François ), still at “76, r. St-Maur”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Zanarelli (François), pierres à aiguiser, Saint-Maur, 76”
“Zanarelli (François), sharpening stones, Saint-Maur, 76”
(on these documents, no businesses were held at
“80, rue St-Maur” → see Link2)
Although it is not clear when “Zanarelli” moved to “80, rue St-Maur”
and when he start working with “Galtié” (has to be between
1897-1911), for me it seems most probable though that this
“Zanarelli François” is actually the one who worked with “Galtié“,
which was later succeeded by “Vve. Valentin Ghelfi”
(Successeur Anciennes Maisons “Vve. Zanarelli & J. Galtié”,
et “Valentin Ghelfi”)
Another connection between “Zanarelli” and “Ghelfi” is DOMENICA CIPRIANA ZANARELLI (°1854), who was the wife of the nephew of CONSTANTINO GHELFI‘s wife
Or, put it another way, Constantino’s wife was MARIA ADELINA TARANTOLA (°1851), one of her nephews was CARLO TARANTOLA (°1849), who was married to
DOMENICA CIPRIANA ZANARELLI (°1854)
This doesn’t link “Zanarelli François” with the “Ghelfi’s” though…
What does link “Zanarelli François” with the “Ghelfi’s” is
the following wedding certificate:
the following wedding certificate:
“Nom: François Dominique Zanarelli
Adresse: r. Ste-Marguerite, 29
Filiation de Jean Zanarelli et Joséphine Gabrielli
Conjoint: Louise Ghelfi (Also written as Ghelli, Ghelfé)
Publication: 20 Juin, 1886
Arrondissement: 12”
Adresse: r. Ste-Marguerite, 29
Filiation de Jean Zanarelli et Joséphine Gabrielli
Conjoint: Louise Ghelfi (Also written as Ghelli, Ghelfé)
Publication: 20 Juin, 1886
Arrondissement: 12”
“Name: François Dominique Zanarelli
Address: st. Ste-Marguerite, 29
Parentage: Jean Zanarelli and Joséphine Gabrielli
Spouse: Louise Ghelfi (Also written as Ghelli, Ghelfé)
Published: June 20, 1886
District: 12”
Address: st. Ste-Marguerite, 29
Parentage: Jean Zanarelli and Joséphine Gabrielli
Spouse: Louise Ghelfi (Also written as Ghelli, Ghelfé)
Published: June 20, 1886
District: 12”
So, in 1886, “Zanarelli Francois” lived at “Rue Marguerite 29”
and married “Ghelfi Louise“, while “Giovannacci (D.)”
and “Laurent Ghelfi” worked together at
“rue Ste-Marguerite, 29“, in the same year!
and married “Ghelfi Louise“, while “Giovannacci (D.)”
and “Laurent Ghelfi” worked together at
“rue Ste-Marguerite, 29“, in the same year!
•
In these documents, there are only references of businesses
to be found, not private addresses, so it is normal that we
can’t find “Zanarelli Francois” in these documents, living
at “Rue Marguerite 29“
can’t find “Zanarelli Francois” in these documents, living
at “Rue Marguerite 29“
•
A bit further in time, another wedding certificate of the sister of
“Zanarelli Francois” reveals a little bit more:
“Nom: Zanarelli, Marie Rose
Adresse: r. Ste-Marguerite, 29
Filiation de Zanarelli, Jean et Gabrielli, Joséphine
Conjoint: de Obizzo,Malaspina Alexandre Léopold Joséph Marie
Publication: 26 Fevr., 1882
Arrondissement: 11”
Adresse: r. Ste-Marguerite, 29
Filiation de Zanarelli, Jean et Gabrielli, Joséphine
Conjoint: de Obizzo,Malaspina Alexandre Léopold Joséph Marie
Publication: 26 Fevr., 1882
Arrondissement: 11”
“Name: Zanarelli, Marie Rose
Address: st. Ste-Marguerite, 29
Parentage: Zanarelli, Jean et Gabrielli, Joséphine
Spouse: de Obizzo, Malaspina Alexander Léopold Joséph Marie
Published: 26 Feb., 1882
District: 11”
Address: st. Ste-Marguerite, 29
Parentage: Zanarelli, Jean et Gabrielli, Joséphine
Spouse: de Obizzo, Malaspina Alexander Léopold Joséph Marie
Published: 26 Feb., 1882
District: 11”
“de Obizzo, Malaspina” lived at “rue Popincourt …3
I don’t know if it has anything to do with “Malaspina“,
who worked with “Ghelfi“…
⇐ Previous chapter: “L. Belle”
⇒ Next chapter: “Short detailed chronology” & “In conclusion”
Chapter:”Short detailed chronology” & “In conclusion”
Who were the people behind F.G.B.C…?
(written by Jethro aka Fikira, historyrazors.wordpress.com)
“F.G.B.C.” produced & sold many sharpening stones, for example:
“pierre La Lune”, “Special Stone only for Good Razors”,
“New Master Stone”, … This article (split up into different chapters)
reveals the history behind the company
Chapters:
- “F.G.B.C., Introduction”
- “Ghelfi family”
- “Birolleau family”
- “Demosthènes, Malaspinas”
- “Bardotti, Giovannacci”
- “L. Belle”
- “Zanarelli, Galtié”
- “Short detailed chronology” & “In conclusion”
Lastly, a really short detailed chronology 
:
1845 “Maison Fondée en 1845”
1873 “Bardotti, Giovanace” (“Giovannacci”),
“29, Rue Saint-Marguerite”
≤1883-1885 “Giovanacci brothers, “29, Rue Saint-Marguerite“
≤1883-1885 “Bardotti & Ghelfi“, “106, faub St-Antoine“,
(“Bardotti“, “Constantin & Laurent Ghelfi“)
≤1886 “Hélin & Malaspina”
1886 “Hélin et Cie“, “passage d’Angoulême (d’Augoulême), 9”
1886 “Bardotti, Ghelfi & Cie“, “106, faub St-Antoine”
(“Bardotti“, “Constantin Ghelfi” & “Malaspina“)
1886-1889 “Giovannacci (D.-Dominico)” & “Laurent Ghelfi“,
“rue Ste-Marguerite, 29”
1886-1889 “Montedonico, Ghelfi & Co“,
“44 (54?), Great Sutton-street, London”
(“Giovanni Baptista Ghelfi” & “Joseph Montedonico“)
1889/ 24 February “Ghelfi & Cie“, “106,faub. St.-Antoine”
(Constantino Ghelfi“, “Malaspinas Léopold” &
“Capriata-Démosthênes Jean“)
1890/ 10 Juin Judicial liquidation “Demosthenes et Cie”
“106,faub. St.-Antoine”
1890/ 6 September “Constantino Ghelfi” went bankrupt together
with “Malaspinas Léopold” & “Capriata-Démosthênes Jean”
“106,faub. St.-Antoine”
≤1890 “Laurent Ghelfi” & “Dominico Giovannacci” moved to
“84, Rue du Faubourg St-Antoine“, their steam plant, moved from
“rue Ste-Marguerite, 29” (see 1886) to “r. de Charonne, 61“
≥1890 “Demosthènes & Cie” (Capriata Demosthènes Jean),
“Faub.-St-Antoine, 56 & 66“, steam plant, “passage du Chantier, 5″
1893 “J. Demosthènes & Cie“, bankrupt “5, passage du Chantier”
1893 – ≥1897 “Demosthènes & Cie”, new company, still at
“Faub.-St-Antoine, 66” (not anymore at “Faub.-St-Antoine, 56“),
steam plant moved to “passage du Chantier, 16”
1894 “Fernand Ghelfi” moved to “Faub.-St-Antoine, 56“
(living there)
1894 “Antonin BIROLLEAU“, administrator quarries
“Merviller-Vacqueville”
1896 “A. Birolleau“, exploiting sandstone quarries at “muschelkack”
1897 “Anonymous company” of the quarries “Merviller-Vacqueville”
1897 “Jean-Baptiste Ghelfi” joined
⇒”Giovannacci D.” & “L.&B. Ghelfi”
⇒”84, Rue du Faubourg St-Antoine”
1902/ 1 January “Ghelfi (L. & B.)” sold
“84, Rue du Faubourg St-Antoine” to “Giovannacci”
1902/ 31 December “D.Giovannacci” resold
“84, Rue du Faubourg St-Antoine” to “Belle”
1903 “Fernand Ghelfi” founded “F.Ghelfi & Cie” “7, rue Charlot”
1908 “Belle” moved from “84, r. du Faub. St.-Antoine“ to
“87, r. du Faub. St. Antoine“
1908-1912 The “maisons” or “houses / etablishments” of
⇒”F.Ghelfi & cie” and “Birolleau” became united,
⇒”F.Ghelfi & Cie” “7, rue Charlot”
⇒”Maisons F.Ghelfi & Cie Birolleau réunies” ⇒ “F.G.B.C.”
1911/ 16 April “Valentin Ghelfi“, son of “Constantino Ghelfi”
⇒”80, r. St-Maur.”
1916 “Belle“, successor of “D. Giovannacci and L.& B. Ghelfi”
“87, Faubg. St. Antoine”
≤1922 “F.Ghelfi & Cie”
⇒”Maisons F.Ghelfi & Cie Birolleau réunies” ⇒ “F.G.B.C.”
⇒”47,Rue de Saintonge“, aside to “7, Rue Charlot”
1923 “Vve (= widow) Valentin (?)“, “80, r. St-Maur.”
1923 “Birolleau” bought the rights of the company “F. Ghelfi & Cie“,
“47, Saintonge” from “Demuth”
≤1931 “Birolleau” (sons) owns the firm:
“F.Ghelfi & Cie” “Anciens établissements”
⇒”Birolleau Fils, propriétaires”
≤1935 “Vve Valentin Ghelfi” became the owner of
“établissements BELLE”
“87, r. du Faub. St. Antoine”
≤1939 “Sir Laurent Ghelfi” went back to Italy (Pontremoli – MS)
≤1952 “F.G.B.C.“ “Nouvelle Société des Anciens Etablissements”
⇒”F.Ghelfi, Birolleau & Cie” “47, Rue de Saintonge, Paris”
1957/ 28 December
⇒”Nouvelle Société des Anciens Etablissements F. Ghelfi, Birolleau et Cie“,
“Société à responsabilité limitée” or S.A.R.L.
= “Limited liability company”
≤1985≥ “Nouvelle société des anciens établissements”
⇒“F.Ghelfi, Birolleau & Cie” “47, Rue de Saintonge“⇒ “F.G.B.C.“
⇒“Meules et pierres à aiguiser et à polir”
≤2007 “Nouvelle Société des Anciens Etablissements F. Ghelfi, Birolleau et Cie“,
S.A.R.L. , wholesale supplier, “5 rue de Douai, Paris”
2011 moved to “156, rue de Tolbiac” until 2014
In conclusion:
There were a couple of agricultural families originated from
Mulazzo, Lunigiani who, because of financial reasons, needed to
go into the world. They firstly became traveling sellers of
stones, books,… until settling down in, for example, Paris.
They kept on selling fantastic high quality grinding, sharpening
and honing stones, of which we still have the supreme
pleasure of using them!
There is still loads of information to be gathered, for instance,
we know that “F.G.B.C.” distributed stones to other suppliers
as for example “Manufrance”.
Occasionally, there are stones to be found as the
“Special stone only for good razors”, together with a label of
“Manufrance Saint-Etienne”.
In catalogs of “Manufrance” there are also links to be found of the
“Special stone”, for example this “Special stone” / “Pierre spéciale”
with very fine grit. The stone has two sides, one for honing a
“D.E. blade“, the other for “straight razors“:
courtesy of “David M Rosenstein”; Catalog “Manufrance” 1961:
The future will give us hopefully more information,
so that we can discover even more about its fascinating history…
Written for and with the huge help of:
“razorlovestones.wordpress.com Link“,
Fikira
⇐ Previous chapter: “Zanarelli, Galtié”
Chapter:”L. Belle”
Who were the people behind F.G.B.C…?
(written by Jethro aka Fikira, historyrazors.wordpress.com)
“F.G.B.C.” produced & sold many sharpening stones, for example:
“pierre La Lune”, “Special Stone only for Good Razors”,
“New Master Stone”, … This article (split up into different chapters)
reveals the history behind the company
Chapters:
- “F.G.B.C., Introduction”
- “Ghelfi family”
- “Birolleau family”
- “Demosthènes, Malaspinas”
- “Bardotti, Giovannacci”
- “L. Belle”
- “Zanarelli, Galtié”
- “Short detailed chronology” & “In conclusion”
“L. Belle”
1902/ 1 January – 31 December
As previous mentioned, “D.Giovannacci” became the owner
of the fund “84, Rue du Faubourg St-Antoine, Paris”on
1 January 1902, he resold it to Mr. Belle on 31 December 1902
(https://books.google.be/books;
Journal des tribunaux de commerce 1910)
“… Giovannacci became, as from 1 January 1902,
the only owner of the funds, he resold it December 31, 1902
to Belle, the plaintiff in the current trial … “
the only owner of the funds, he resold it December 31, 1902
to Belle, the plaintiff in the current trial … “
The building itself, not the fund, was still property of “Ghelfi”
We’ve established that “Jean-Baptiste Ghelfi”
must have been the owner
1908-1909
A residential building of 7 floors was constructed for Mr. Ghelfi at
“84 rue du Faubourg-Saint-Antoine (12e arr.)”
- “PARIS 1876-1939 : LES PERMIS DE CONSTRUIRE” Link
- lib.ugent.be “Le Béton armé” (p.31) Link
- archiwebture.citechaillot.fr Link
“84 rue du Faubourg-Saint-Antoine” (12e arr.)
Owner: Ghelfi, “30, avenue Daumesnil”
Architect: Jacquemin, “30, avenue Daumesnil”
Construction 7 floors
1 May 1908
Owner: Ghelfi, “30, avenue Daumesnil”
Architect: Jacquemin, “30, avenue Daumesnil”
Construction 7 floors
1 May 1908
1909
(private collection)
This receipt of 1909 shows that “Belle” moved in 1909
(or earlier), from “84, rue du Faubourg St.-Antoine”
to “87, rue du Faubourg St.-Antoine”
“Pierres et meules à aiguiser & à polir”
“L. Belle”
“87 Faubourg St.-Antoine”
“ci-devant 84, même rue”
PARIS
“L. Belle”
“87 Faubourg St.-Antoine”
“ci-devant 84, même rue”
PARIS
“Stones and grindstones & polishing”
“L. Belle”
“87 Faubourg St. Antoine”
“Heretofore 84, same street”
PARIS
“L. Belle”
“87 Faubourg St. Antoine”
“Heretofore 84, same street”
PARIS
Another receipt (which I can’t show…), dated 15 January 1909,
lets me think (because it is so early in the year 1909) that “Belle”
most probably moved from “84, rue du Faubourg St.-Antoine”
to “87, rue du Faubourg St.-Antoine” in 1908
(being more specific then 1908-1909)
→ So:
·
“Jean-Baptiste Ghelfi” owned the house,
“84 rue du Faubourg-Saint-Antoine“,
rebuild it to a residential building in 1908.
·
“Belle”, who owned the business at
“84, rue du Faubourg St.-Antoine”
(used to be property of Ghelfi), needed to move
to “87, rue du Faubourg St.-Antoine” in 1908.
1916/ 28 December
Next document makes very clear that “Belle” was the successor of
“D. Giovannacci” and “L. & B. Ghelfi”
courtesy of Sebastian of “razorlovestones.com“:
“Pierres et meules à aiguiser & à polir”
“D.Giovannacci, L.&B.Ghelfi”
“L.BELLE Succr.”
“Bureaux & Magasins”:
“87, Faubg. St. Antoine”
“ci-devant: 84, Fg. St. Antoine”
“Maison Fondée en 1845”
Usines (factories):
“Paris, 61, Rue de Charonne”
“Bédarrides (Vaucluse)”
“Massa (Italie)”
“Succursale à Londres”
- Regrettably, at this moment I haven’t found more information about “Maison fondée en 1845” (“House” founded in 1845)…
- “Bédarrides (Vaucluse)” is situated in southeastern France,
in the Provence-Alpes-Côte d’Azur region. - Usine a vapeur: “61, Rue de Charonne, Paris”
- They also had a section in “London”
- When compared with the postcard from 1898/ 11 November,
“D. Giovannacci, L. & B. Ghelfi”
Bureaux et Magasins:
“84, Faubourg St.-Antoine, Paris”
Usine a vapeur: “61, Rue de Charonne, Paris”
Usine hydraulique, à Canevara, près Massa (Italie)
Succursales à Londres et New-York
it is clear that “L.Belle” acquired a lot more from
“D. Giovannacci, L. & B. Ghelfi” than only the fund
at “84, Faubourg St.-Antoine, Paris”!
Also note the “usine” in Massa, Italy,
this is where the Ghelfi’s originally came from!
1925
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Annuaire industriel.
Répertoire général de la production française Link)
Link1, Link2, Link3
“Belle (L.), 87, fbg. St-Antoine, Paris”
“Pierres et Meules à aiguiser, à l’huile, en corindon,…”
“Pierres et Meules à aiguiser, à l’huile, en corindon,…”
1928-1929
(https://books.google.be; “L’Annual”:
annuaire universel de l’industrie automobile)
“BELLE”,
fabrique de meules en grès, et de pierres à aiguiser et à polir,
“87, rue du Faubourg Saint-Antoine, Paris“
fabrique de meules en grès, et de pierres à aiguiser et à polir,
“87, rue du Faubourg Saint-Antoine, Paris“
1935
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Annuaire industriel.
Répertoire général de la production française Link)
Link1, Link2, Link3
“Belle (L.)”,
“87, fbg. St-Antoine, Paris”
“Pierres et Meules à aiguiser, à l’huile, en corindon,…”
“87, fbg. St-Antoine, Paris”
“Pierres et Meules à aiguiser, à l’huile, en corindon,…”
1935/ 22 August
(Private collection)
Vve Valentin Ghelfi became the owner of etablissements BELLE:
“Etablissements BELLE”
“Veuve Valentin Ghelfi, Propriétaire”
“Meules, pierres, outillage, produits a aiguiser et a polir”
“Veuve Valentin Ghelfi, Propriétaire”
“Meules, pierres, outillage, produits a aiguiser et a polir”
“Ancienne maison”
“D.Giovannacci, L.&B.Ghelfi”
“Fondée en 1845”
“M.P.O.P.”
“87, Faubourg Saint-Antoine, Paris”
“Magasin de Meules & Usine”
“72, Rue Saint-Maur, Paris”
M.P.O.P. stands for:
Meules, Pierres, Outillage, Produits a aiguiser et a polir
1938
Although it is established that the widow of “Valentin Ghelfi”
acquired the business back from “Belle”, there are documents
to be found until 1938 of “L. Belle”, selling grinding, sharpening
and polishing stones at “87, Rue du Faubourg St-Antoine“,
so apparently, the company kept on using the name “L.Belle“
This could mean that “L. Belle” had established a good and
well know name, maybe “Valentin Ghelfi” possibly didn’t.
When noticing the usage of the ancient names
“D.Giovannacci, L.&B.Ghelfi”, it is clear that those names
still were very well known, the names kept on being used,
even by the third owner of the company!
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Annuaire industriel.
Répertoire général de la production française Link)
“BELLE (L.), 87, fbg St-Antoine”
“Ateliers: “61, r. de Charonne”
“Meules et pierres à aiguiser”
“Ateliers: “61, r. de Charonne”
“Meules et pierres à aiguiser”
For the moment unfortunately, we don’t know more
of who exactly Mr. “L. Belle” was…
⇐ Previous chapter: “Bardotti, Giovannacci”
⇒ Next chapter: “Zanarelli, Galtié”
Chapter: “Bardotti, Giovannacci,…”
Who were the people behind F.G.B.C…?
(written by Jethro aka Fikira, historyrazors.wordpress.com)
“F.G.B.C.” produced & sold many sharpening stones, for example:
“pierre La Lune”, “Special Stone only for Good Razors”,
“New Master Stone”, … This article (split up into different chapters)
reveals the history behind the company
Chapters:
- “F.G.B.C., Introduction”
- “Ghelfi family”
- “Birolleau family”
- “Demosthènes, Malaspinas”
- “Bardotti, Giovannacci”
- “L. Belle”
- “Zanarelli, Galtié”
- “Short detailed chronology” & “In conclusion”
Chapter: “Bardotti, Giovannacci“
It is very hard to discover and identify who were the
“Bardotti”, “Giovannacci”,… of the firm “F.G.B.C.”
At this moment I can only highlight possible relations
in different families, with striking resemblances and
connections with the Ghelfi family and the stone trade.
We know from documents (gallica.bnf.fr Link) that
“Bardotti” and “Giovanace” (“Giovannacci”?) sold
sharpening and grindstones at:
“29, Rue-Saint Marguerite”
1873:
“Bardotti”, first worked with “Giovanace” (“Giovannacci”),
“Rue Saint-Marguerite, 29”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Almanach des 40,000 adresses des fabricants de Paris…Link)
Pierres et meules à aiguiser (Grind- & sharpening stones):
Bardotti, Giovanace, “Rue Saint-Marguerite, 29”
Bardotti, Giovanace, “Rue Saint-Marguerite, 29”
1880
Giovannacci bought funds of a hotel at “29, Ste-Marguerite”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Archives commerciales de la France, Link p. 367)
| Vendeur | Acquéreurs | Demeures des acquéreurs | Désignation des fonds vendus |
| Clanet | Gio- vannacci |
Rue Ste.-Marguerite, 29 | Fonds hôtel, Rue Ste.-Marg., 29 |
| Seller | Acquirers | Buyer’s residence | Designation sold funds |
| Clanet | Giovannacci | Rue Ste.-Marguerite, 29 | Funds hotel, Rue Ste.-Marg., 29 |
1883
“Bardotti & Ghelfi”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Bardotti et Ghelfi, meules en grès et pierres à aiguiser, Faub.-St-Antoine, 106”
“Bardotti & Ghelfi, sandstone grind- and sharpening stones,
Faub.-St-Antoine, 106“
Faub.-St-Antoine, 106“
Bardotti also had a hotel at “Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 27“
•
“Giovanacci”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Giovanacci frères, meules et pierres à aiguiser,
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29”
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29”
“Giovanacci brothers, grinding wheels and sharpening stones,
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29“
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29“
Giovanacci also sold wine and had a hotel at
“Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29“
1884
“Bardotti & Ghelfi”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Bardotti et Ghelfi, meules en grès et pierres à aiguiser, Faub.-St-Antoine, 106”
“Bardotti & Ghelfi, sandstone grind- and sharpening stones,
Faub.-St-Antoine, 106“
Faub.-St-Antoine, 106“
This company was most probably owned by:
“Bardotti“, “Laurent Ghelfi” & “Constantin Ghelfi” (see further)
Bardotti also sold wine and had a hotel at
“Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 27“
•
“Giovanacci”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Giovanacci frères, meules et pierres à aiguiser,
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29”
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29”
“Giovanacci brothers, grinding wheels and sharpening stones,
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29“
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29“
Giovanacci also sold wine and had a hotel at
“Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29“
1885
“Bardotti & Ghelfi”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Bardotti et Ghelfi, meules en grès et pierres à aiguiser,
Faub.-St-Antoine, 106”
Faub.-St-Antoine, 106”
“Bardotti & Ghelfi, sandstone grind- and sharpening stones,
Faub.-St-Antoine, 106“
Faub.-St-Antoine, 106“
This company was owned by:
“Bardotti“, “Laurent Ghelfi” & “Constantin Ghelfi” (see further)
“Bardotti” also had a hotel at “Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 27“
•
“Giovanacci”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Giovanacci frères, meules et pierres à aiguiser,
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29”
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29”
“Giovanacci brothers, grinding wheels and sharpening stones,
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29“
Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29“
Giovanacci also sold wine and had a hotel at
“Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29“
1885, 28 Oktober
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Archives commerciales de la France,
Journal bi-hebdomadaire, paraissant le Mercredi et le Samedi Link)
|
Vendeurs |
Acquéreurs |
Domiciles |
Fonds vendus |
|
Ghelfi Laurent |
Bardotti et Ghelfi |
fg. St-Antoine, 106 |
Droits soc. Bardotti et Ghelfi |
|
Sellers |
Purchasers |
Address |
Funds sold |
|
Ghelfi Laurent |
Bardotti & Ghelfi |
fg. St-Antoine, 106 |
Rights company |
It was “Laurent Ghelfi” who had worked in the company,
and that he sold his rights to “Bardotti“& “Ghelfi“,
“Ghelfi” being “(Constantin) Ghelfi” (see further)
“Laurent Ghelfi” went on working with “D. Giovannacci”
(see further)
1886/ 1 January
Formation of the company “Bardotti, Ghelfi and Co”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ;
Archives commerciales de la France 1874-1955 Link)
“… Paris – Formation de la Société en nom collectif
Bardotti, Ghelfi et Cie (pierres et meules),
faub. St-Antoine, 106. – Durée: 3 ans du 1er janv. 1886 …
Cette nouvelle Société est chargée de la liquidation de la
Société entre MM. Bardotti et Ghelfi, et de celle
entre MM. Hélin et Malaspina, qui ont
pris fin le 1er janv. 1886 … “
Bardotti, Ghelfi et Cie (pierres et meules),
faub. St-Antoine, 106. – Durée: 3 ans du 1er janv. 1886 …
Cette nouvelle Société est chargée de la liquidation de la
Société entre MM. Bardotti et Ghelfi, et de celle
entre MM. Hélin et Malaspina, qui ont
pris fin le 1er janv. 1886 … “
“… Paris – Formation of the company
“Bardotti, Ghelfi and Co” (grind- and sharpening stones),
faub St-Antoine, 106. – Duration: 3 years from
Jan. 1, 1886 … The new company is responsible
for the liquidation of the company between
Messrs. Bardotti and Ghelfi, and the one between
MM. Hélin and Malaspina, which ended on Jan. 1. 1886 … “
“Bardotti, Ghelfi and Co” (grind- and sharpening stones),
faub St-Antoine, 106. – Duration: 3 years from
Jan. 1, 1886 … The new company is responsible
for the liquidation of the company between
Messrs. Bardotti and Ghelfi, and the one between
MM. Hélin and Malaspina, which ended on Jan. 1. 1886 … “
1886
“Hélin” started in 1886 a new company, this after the dissolved
partnership between Messrs. “Bardotti and Ghelfi“, and the one
between MM. “Hélin and Malaspina“, which ended on Jan. 1. 1886
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Hélin et Cie, pierres à aiguiser, meules et grès.
Vente de confiance, passage d’Angoulême (d’Augoulême), 9.”
Vente de confiance, passage d’Angoulême (d’Augoulême), 9.”
“Hélin & Co, sharpening stones, sandstone grindstones.
Sale of confidence, passage d’Angoulême (or d’Augoulême), 9.”
Sale of confidence, passage d’Angoulême (or d’Augoulême), 9.”
Link1, Link2
“Malaspina” then worked with “Bardotti” and “Ghelfi” and
became “Bardotti, Ghelfi and Co”, “faub St-Antoine, 106”
– Duration: 3 years
“Constantin Ghelfi“kept on working with “Bardotti & Co”
(see further)
Also, in 1886, “Laurent Ghelfi” started working with
“Giovannacci“,”rue Ste-Marguerite, 29“, after
the company of the “Giovannacci brothers” dissolved
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Giovannacci (D.) et L. Ghelfi, pierres à aiguiser,
rue Ste-Marguerite, 29.”
rue Ste-Marguerite, 29.”
“Giovannacci (D.) et L. Ghelfi, sharpening stones,
rue Ste-Marguerite, 29.”
rue Ste-Marguerite, 29.”
“Giovannacci (D.)” most probably is: Domenico GIOVANNACCI (See further)
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Bardotti et Ghelfi, pierres à aiguiser, meules en grès, Faub.-St-Antoine, 106”
“Bardotti et Ghelfi, sharpening stones, sandstone grindstones,
Faub.-St-Antoine, 106“
Faub.-St-Antoine, 106“
1888-1889
Both “Bardotti” and “Giovannacci” rented stores at
“Rue-Saint Marguerite”.
“27, Rue Saint Marguerite” (owned by widow “Fould”
(birth name “Simonin”)), was rented by “Bardotti“.
He had become a wine dealer, ……
“29, Rue Saint Marguerite” (owned by “Pochet”) was
rented by “Giovannacci“, he also was a wine dealer, and
kept on selling sharpening stones, just like before.
(Along with “Laurent Ghelfi“)
They both had to leave their homes…
A judgment of 12 October 1888 / Decision of 14 February 1889,
required the expropriation (eminent domain) of:
“R. Ste-Marg. 27, 29,…”,
this for the expansion of the Rue Sainte-Marguerite;
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Bulletin municipal officiel de la Ville de Paris,1888/12/23,1889/2/18)
|
Noms des propriétaires |
Noms des locataires |
|
|
Rue Sainte-Marguerite, 27 |
Veuve FOULD (Gustave-Eugène), |
BARDOTTI, marchand de vins, … |
|
Rue Sainte Marguerite, 29 |
POCHET |
GIOVANNACCI, marchand de vins, marchant de pierres à aiguiser, … |
Around 1890
Because of this, around 1890, “D.Giovannacci & L. Ghelfi“, moved
to “84, Faubourg St.-Antoine“; their steam plant (factory) moved
from “rue Ste-Marguerite, 29“ to “r. de Charonne, 61“
(see further chapter “Ghelfi family”)
Some more information about “Giovannacci D.”
We know that “D. Giovannacci” was working with “Laurent Ghelfi” (1886,…)
On “geneanet.org” we find a Domenico GIOVANNACCI
(in French:Dominique GIOVANNACCI),
°1859, a “grindstone manufacturer”
He was married 1 April 1880, Mulazzo, Italy, to
Maria GENESONI (°1861). Later that year they moved to
Paris, where they had their domicile in the 11th district
On 7 March 1886, their first son was born,
Jean Baptiste Humbert GIOVANNACCI, Paris, 11th
district, this was witnessed by Laurent GHELFI (°1856)!
(or, from another geneanet page Laurent GHELFI (°1856))
Another link is Noël GIOVANNACCI (°1856, Mulazzo, Italy).
He as well moved to Paris. He married, 1879, 11th
district, Paris, to Angèle Marthe Catherine PAGANUZZI
This was witnessed by Domenico GIOVANNACCI (°1859)
& Isidore CLANET
(Clanet: see chapter “Bardotti, Giovannacci” where in 1880
“Giovannacci” bought funds of a hotel from “Clanet” at
“29, Ste-Marguerite“)
Noël GIOVANNACCI & Angèle Marthe Catherine PAGANUZZI
had their domicile, 1879, at “29, rue Sainte Marguerite“, Paris,
11th district, the same adress were “D. Giovannacci” &
“Laurent Ghelfi” had their company in 1886!
The birth of one of their sons, Victor Noël Henri GIOVANNACCI
(°19 March 1887, Paris 11th district, was witnessed
by Domenico GIOVANNACCI (°1859).
The birth of one of their daughters, Rose Angèle GIOVANNACCI
( Born 27 July 1883, Paris 11th district, was witnessed by
Laurent GHELFI (°1856)!
Because of al those links, especially
between Domenico GIOVANNACCI (°1859) &
Domenico GIOVANNACCI (°1859), I believe that
Domenico GIOVANNACCI (°1859) is actually
“D. Giovannacci” of the company “Giovannacci (D.) & L. Ghelfi“,
sharpening stones, “rue Ste-Marguerite, 29“
Whether Domenico GIOVANNACCI (°1859) was on of the
“Giovanacci brothers, grinding wheels and sharpening stones,
“Ste-Marguerite-St-Antoine, 29“, is not clear…
Information about “Bardotti” is more difficult to find
I only can highlight some striking links between the
“Bardotti” families and others with the “Ghelfi” family
who traded in Paris.
From the very impressive family trees of
FERDINANDO MICHELONI (†before 1806),
LORENZO BARDOTTI,… we find:
(“geneanet.com”, see their “Descendancy Chart”,
just click on each name to open a direct link to the site)
Luigi MICHELONI,
(grandfather of the wife of Laurent GHELFI),
had a brother:
CARLO MICHELONI
(†before 1867, = uncle of father in law of Laurent GHELFI),
he was married to CATTERINA BARDOTTI
One of the children of
CARLO MICHELONI & CATTERINA BARDOTTI was:
FRANCESCO MICHELONI
(°ca 1828, Mulazzo, MS, Italia – †1867, Fontanella, Lombardia, Italia)
(= nephew of the father in law of Laurent GHELFI)
He was a VENDITORE DI PIETRE (stone seller)
Another link to the Ghelfi family is
CLAUDINA MICHELONI(1874-1899)/
CLAUDIA MARIA CARMELLA MICHELONI (1871-1899)
(both are the same person)
She was one of the sisters of
the 2 wives of Laurent GHELFI
She also was the godmother of:
ALFREDO ARMANDO BARDOTTI (°23/1/1896).
Coincidentally or not, his great-grandfather was
ANDREA BARDOTTI (°ca1800).
I don’t know if he actually is the “Andrea Bardotti, Parana”
who went in 1837 to Piedmont, and later went to France
(see beginning of this article),
I believe it is not far from the truth though…
A bit unfortunate is that ANDREA BARDOTTI was born in
Castevoli, while “Andrea Bardotti of the beginning of the article
was born in Parana… (Parana, Castevoli, Monte Reggia,
Mulazzo are pretty close to each other though)
But, one of the grandchildren of ANDREA BARDOTTI was:
LUIGIA MARIA ROSA BARDOTTI,
°ca 1849, CASTEVOLI, she died, 1892, in Paris…!
She was married to ADEODATTO BARDOTTI
(°ca1834 – †after 1892)
His father was GIOVANNI ANDREA BARDOTTI, °1784, PARANA!
I believe it could very well be true that one of these two
“Andrea Bardotti’s” was in fact that person that once went to
France and not only was key in spreading the stone sale,
he also was pretty close to the Ghelfi’s as well…
•
⇐ Previous chapter: “Demosthènes, Malaspinas”
⇒ Next chapter: “L. Belle”
Chapter: “Demosthènes, Malaspinas”
Who were the people behind F.G.B.C…?
(written by Jethro aka Fikira, historyrazors.wordpress.com)
“F.G.B.C.” produced & sold many sharpening stones, for example:
“pierre La Lune”, “Special Stone only for Good Razors”,
“New Master Stone”, … This article (split up into different chapters)
reveals the history behind the company
Chapters:
- “F.G.B.C., Introduction”
- “Ghelfi family”
- “Birolleau family”
- “Demosthènes, Malaspinas”
- “Bardotti, Giovannacci”
- “L. Belle”
- “Zanarelli, Galtié”
- “Short detailed chronology” & “In conclusion”
Chapter: “Demosthènes, Malaspinas,,..“
1886/ 1 January
Formation of the company “Bardotti, Ghelfi and Co”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Archives commerciales de la France Link)
” … Paris – Formation de la Société en nom collectif Bardotti, Ghelfi et Cie (pierres et meules), faub. St-Antoine, 106
Durée: 3 ans du 1er janv. 1886 … Cette nouvelle Société est chargée de la liquidation de la Société entre MM. Bardotti et Ghelfi, et de celle entre MM. Hélin et Malaspina,
qui ont pris fin le 1er janv. 1886 … “
Durée: 3 ans du 1er janv. 1886 … Cette nouvelle Société est chargée de la liquidation de la Société entre MM. Bardotti et Ghelfi, et de celle entre MM. Hélin et Malaspina,
qui ont pris fin le 1er janv. 1886 … “
“… Paris – Formation of the company “Bardotti, Ghelfi & Cie (grind- and sharpening stones),faub. St-Antoine, 106
Duration: 3 years from 1/1/1886 … The new company is
responsible for the liquidation of the company between Messrs. Bardotti and Ghelfi, and the one between
MM. Hélin and Malaspina, which ended on 1/1/1886 … “
Duration: 3 years from 1/1/1886 … The new company is
responsible for the liquidation of the company between Messrs. Bardotti and Ghelfi, and the one between
MM. Hélin and Malaspina, which ended on 1/1/1886 … “
1889/ 18 April (Publication) / 1889/ 24 February (Act)
Formation of “Ghelfi & Cie”
(Probably since 1 January 1889)
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Archives commerciales de la France Link)
“… Paris – Formation de la Société … “Ghelfi et Cie”,
fab. de pierres en tous genres, faub. St-Antoine, 106.
– Durée: 6 ans … Acte du 24 Fév. 1889″
fab. de pierres en tous genres, faub. St-Antoine, 106.
– Durée: 6 ans … Acte du 24 Fév. 1889″
“… Paris – Formation of the company…”Ghelfi and Co.”,
fab. stones of all kinds, faub. St-Antoine, 106.
– Duration: 6 years … act of 24 February 1889″
fab. stones of all kinds, faub. St-Antoine, 106.
– Duration: 6 years … act of 24 February 1889″
1890/ 10 Juin
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Archives commerciales de la France Link)
“Liquidation judiciaires”
Paris. – Demosthènes (Jean),
nég. en pierres et meules à aiguiser,
faub. St.-Antoine, 106,
sous le nom de “Demosthènes et Cie”…”
Paris. – Demosthènes (Jean),
nég. en pierres et meules à aiguiser,
faub. St.-Antoine, 106,
sous le nom de “Demosthènes et Cie”…”
“Judicial liquidation”
Paris. – Demosthenes (Jean),
merchant stones and grindstones,
faub. St.-Antoine, 106,
under the name “Demosthenes et Cie” …”
Paris. – Demosthenes (Jean),
merchant stones and grindstones,
faub. St.-Antoine, 106,
under the name “Demosthenes et Cie” …”
1890/ 6 September
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Archives commerciales de la France Link)
“… jugement du 6 sept. 1890 rapportant le jugement du 10 juin précédent qui a admis Démosthènes au bénéfice de la liquidation judiciaire, et déclarant en état de faillite ouverte:
1e Ghelfi (Constantin); 2e Malaspinas (Léopold);
3e Capriata-Démosthènes (Jean), ayant fait en commun, sous la raison Ghelfi et Cie, puis sous celle de “Démosthènes et Cie”, le commerce de pierres et meules à aiguiser,
faub St.-Antoine, 106 …”
1e Ghelfi (Constantin); 2e Malaspinas (Léopold);
3e Capriata-Démosthènes (Jean), ayant fait en commun, sous la raison Ghelfi et Cie, puis sous celle de “Démosthènes et Cie”, le commerce de pierres et meules à aiguiser,
faub St.-Antoine, 106 …”
“… judgment of 6 September 1890 relating to the judgment of 10 June last year which admitted Démosthènes in favor of the liquidation, and declaring a state of open bankruptcy:
1st Ghelfi (Constantin); 2nd Malaspinas (Léopold);
3th Capriata-Démosthènes (Jean), first under the name “Ghelfi & Cie” , then under the name
“Démosthènes & Cie”, with business
“sharpening- and grindstones”, faub St.-Antoine, 106…”
1st Ghelfi (Constantin); 2nd Malaspinas (Léopold);
3th Capriata-Démosthènes (Jean), first under the name “Ghelfi & Cie” , then under the name
“Démosthènes & Cie”, with business
“sharpening- and grindstones”, faub St.-Antoine, 106…”
Conclusion:
I believe it is very likely that “Malaspinas” worked with “Ghelfi”
from 1886 until 1890 (before 1886 he worked with MM. Hélin).
“Capriata Demosthènes Jean” on his turn worked for a short
time with Ghelfi since 1889 (maybe earlier) until 1890…
“Ghelfi (Constantin)”, “Malaspinas (Léopold)” and
“Capriata-Démosthènes (Jean)” first worked together
under the name “Ghelfi & Cie” (since 1889),
this company became “Démosthènes & Cie“.
Eventually they went bankrupt under the name
“Démosthènes & Cie“, and not as “Ghelfi & Cie“
1893
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Demosthènes & Cie”, success. des maisons:
“Bardotti, Ghelfi & Cie”, et “Ghelfi et Cie”.
Manufactures de meules et pierres à aiguiser et articles à polir.
…
“Faub.-St-Antoine, 56 et 66”, usine à vapeur,
“passage du Chantier, 5″.”
“Bardotti, Ghelfi & Cie”, et “Ghelfi et Cie”.
Manufactures de meules et pierres à aiguiser et articles à polir.
…
“Faub.-St-Antoine, 56 et 66”, usine à vapeur,
“passage du Chantier, 5″.”
“Demosthènes & Cie“, successor of the firms:
“Bardotti, Ghelfi & Cie” and “Ghelfi & Cie“.
Manufactures of grind-, sharpening stones
and polishing articles.
…
“Faub.-St-Antoine, 56 & 66“, steam plant,
“passage du Chantier, 5″.”
“Bardotti, Ghelfi & Cie” and “Ghelfi & Cie“.
Manufactures of grind-, sharpening stones
and polishing articles.
…
“Faub.-St-Antoine, 56 & 66“, steam plant,
“passage du Chantier, 5″.”
Although it is clear that Demosthènes was the successor of
“Bardotti, Ghelfi & Cie” and “Ghelfi et Cie“, these names were
kept in use, as if they still existed on their own
(with the mentioning of: “see Demosthènes & Co”)
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Bardotti, Ghelfi & Co, passage du Chantier, 5
(Voir Demosthènes et Co)”
(Voir Demosthènes et Co)”
“Bardotti, Ghelfi & Co, passage du Chantier, 5
(See Demosthènes & Co)”
(See Demosthènes & Co)”
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Ghelfi & Co, passage du Chantier, 5 (Voir Demosthènes et Co)”
“Ghelfi & Co, passage du Chantier, 5 (See Demosthènes & Co)”
1893/ 3 August
“Capriata Demosthènes Jean”, “passage du Chantier, 5”
went bankrupt on 3/8/1893 under the name
“J. Demosthènes & Cie“
(gallica.bnf.fr Link, Journal officiel de la République française 1881 Link)
“Declaration de faillite”
“Capriata Demosthènes (Jean), marchand de pierres et
meules à aiguiser, “passage du Chantier, 5”,
faisant le commerce sous la raison
“J. Demosthènes et Cie”…”
“Capriata Demosthènes (Jean), marchand de pierres et
meules à aiguiser, “passage du Chantier, 5”,
faisant le commerce sous la raison
“J. Demosthènes et Cie”…”
“Declaration of bankruptcy”
“Capriata Demosthènes (Jean), stones and
grindstones merchant, “passage du Chantier, 5”,
was trading under the name “J. Demosthènes et Cie”…”
“Capriata Demosthènes (Jean), stones and
grindstones merchant, “passage du Chantier, 5”,
was trading under the name “J. Demosthènes et Cie”…”
1897
“Demosthènes & Cie” started a new company, still at
“Faub.-St-Antoine, 66” (not anymore at “Faub.-St-Antoine, 56“)
Most probably this happened just after the
bankruptcy, 3/8/1893, since all of Ferdinando GHELFI‘s
children were born at “Rue du Faubourg St. Antoine 56”
between 5 Jan. 1894 and 1899, telling us that Ferdinando GHELFI
came to live here before 1894 (Also see chapter “Ghelfi family”)
The steam plant of “Demosthènes & Cie” moved from
“passage du Chantier, 5” to “passage du Chantier, 16“
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Bardotti, Ghelfi et Co, “Demosthènes & Cie” (Quadri, succ.),
Manufactures de meules et pierres à aiguiser et articles à polir
…
Faub.-St-Antoine, 66, usine à vapeur, passage du Chantier, 16.“
Manufactures de meules et pierres à aiguiser et articles à polir
…
Faub.-St-Antoine, 66, usine à vapeur, passage du Chantier, 16.“
“Bardotti, Ghelfi et Co, “Demosthènes & Cie” (Quadri, succ.),
Manufactures of grindstones, sharpening stones and polishing articles
…
Faub.-St-Antoine, 66, steam plant, passage du Chantier, 16.“
Manufactures of grindstones, sharpening stones and polishing articles
…
Faub.-St-Antoine, 66, steam plant, passage du Chantier, 16.“
Again, Demosthènes was the successor of “Bardotti, Ghelfi & Cie”
but the latter name was kept in use, probably for marketing
purposes; “Demosthènes & Cie” was written in bold
lettres, while “Bardotti, Ghelfi et Co” was written in
plain letters; a bit further on the same page we see:
(gallica.bnf.fr Link ; Annuaire-almanach du commerce, de l’industrie,
de la magistrature et de l’administration … 1857-1908 Link)
“Demosthènes & Cie”, Faub.-St-Antoine,
66, pass. du Chantier, 16.“
66, pass. du Chantier, 16.“
At the moment, I don’t have further information…
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